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MithranArkanere · Nov 01, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

I seriously doubt they got the 100% in one day. You can't absolutely make all 13 missions in less than 3..4 hours. Then add the work of running all arround.

Probably they had 60..90% or so.

bobrath · Nov 01, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

FYI - you can get 100% of cantha without glitching into Eredon's terrace or even being a Canthan born char (with access to the monastery).

Anet has no need to "correct" their game - the actual map is more then the 100% needed for the title.

Dev121 · Nov 01, 2007, 08:40 PM // 20:40

For The Record: Titles are optional meaning you cant complain about them, if you bought an expansion with them title exclusive then you may have 'some' complain but still its not worth it. Anet wont do anything and really should be focusing on other stuff, if the higher ranks became easy to get some how then they may interfere but for map titles doubtful.

Fitz Rinley · Nov 01, 2007, 09:11 PM // 21:11

DeVaNeY121,

As of the implementation of HoM titles are no longer optional - they are now almost the exclusive point of play. All game functions now result in moving toward HoM and maximizing titles for points applied to GW2.

And BobRath - you are wrong. I have been through Cantha, wall by wall. I have been inside them, behind them, stuck in them, stuck floating above them, and the only point of clouds that equals the 0.3% I do not have is in Shing Jea starter area that was still locked off during the Dragon Festival. Could I accomplish it with the Eredon Terrace glitch? Yes. Will I do so? No. I have JQ, the Foreign and Local quarters, the faction farming challenge mission areas, etc. When GW puts the system in place that ought to be there, and IT shows me where to get the 0.3% outside of Shing Jea, then I will believe you. Until then, No one who tells me it can be done normally while skipping a half-dozen to a dozen places is credible.

jezz · Nov 01, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Not to mention links to the Guildwiki are in-game...

agreed...

hit F10 type Texmod and bingo

Mordakai · Nov 01, 2007, 09:31 PM // 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

Until then, No one who tells me it can be done normally while skipping a half-dozen to a dozen places is credible.

Then how do people who are not Canthan born get it?

darkknightkain · Nov 01, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Don't see anything wrong about it...

It's just like those public exams. You can study it your own way, or you can just grab an exam guilebook and cram on that.

Frankly if the mod promotes doing it the proper way via clearing the fog in each area then it is probably even better than finding exploits to glitch into unintended areas to fake percentages.

Mordakai · Nov 01, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

"The proper way..."

What the hell. I guess these same people would say it's wrong to use your level 20's to get the bonus missions in Ascalon. "They should have done it when they were level 8..."

Tiger30 · Nov 02, 2007, 01:06 AM // 01:06

For the Cantha area you can go into the pvp arena at Shing Jea, and when they have festivals you can go all around the back area that is not normally open for the non canthan born. It can be tough getting the 16 people together for Jade Quary and Fort Aspenwood. I managed to talk enough people into sticking around and we would switch sides. Take your time and remap all the mission areas when you can, and also be sure to fully explore all the towns and go into all the challenge missions that you possibly can. Also when you go into beat Shiro get your self banished and scrape the edge there as well. I am not Canthan born and with out using any glitches, or mods or anything but hard work and a lot of time managed to get it.

super strokey · Nov 02, 2007, 01:10 AM // 01:10

anyone know how to do it in vista for cartographer?

HawkofStorms · Nov 02, 2007, 01:44 AM // 01:44

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

"The proper way..."

What the hell. I guess these same people would say it's wrong to use your level 20's to get the bonus missions in Ascalon. "They should have done it when they were level 8..."

Lol. Excellent point. Yeah there is no "illegitamate" way to get the title. About the only thing I can think of for a title that was "illegit" was using the zoning bug with ales into certain towns to get drunkard faster (which has since been nerfed). Of course, by doing the drunkard title that way, you do it faster, but it actually cost you like 3 times as much money, so its kinda legit too.

Eviance · Nov 02, 2007, 02:08 AM // 02:08

I'm sure this has been brought up once before, but I will do it again anyways -

What is unfair was people charging around 100k to help people get their last spot. I've used the mod a couple of times but not till I was in the 90% of my title and I still haven't finished cause I could care less about the whole title wh0ring thing. For me the game is about fun and the titles mean something to whoever worked the hardest to get them.

There are two types of people. Those that announce their great contribution to the less fortunate and the silent giver.
I am sure it means a lot more to the silent giver than it does the guy with the bull horn.

Fitz Rinley · Nov 02, 2007, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiger30

For the Cantha area you can go into the pvp arena at Shing Jea, and when they have festivals you can go all around the back area that is not normally open for the non canthan born. It can be tough getting the 16 people together for Jade Quary and Fort Aspenwood. I managed to talk enough people into sticking around and we would switch sides. Take your time and remap all the mission areas when you can, and also be sure to fully explore all the towns and go into all the challenge missions that you possibly can. Also when you go into beat Shiro get your self banished and scrape the edge there as well. I am not Canthan born and with out using any glitches, or mods or anything but hard work and a lot of time managed to get it.

Been there done that, then did it again, and again. 0.3% is in the part of the Boardwalk they did not open during the Dragon Fest. I can see it.

Lady Lozza · Nov 02, 2007, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Fitz, I'm assuming the 0.3% you are talking about is the section only Canthan characters can get at?

You don't need this to get 100% without JQ or Eredon Terrace. I got to 99.9% without either, and my mesmer is a non-Canthan character. More to the point, friendly people here said I was missing another area up in the final mission that should have netted me my last couple of pixels, and it was a matter of pixels because simply entering JQ got me the last little bit I needed, who knows how much extra can be got running around the full extent of JQ (both sides), maybe 0.7%?

Fitz Rinley · Nov 02, 2007, 02:55 AM // 02:55

JQ was 0.5% when I mapped it from both sides. been there done that. Scraped in Shiro's little prison. Walked all the walls in every town methodically. Went through every area killing all and scraping walls til I had the perimeter and then filled every path with red dots and scraped the sides of large obstacles (hills/lakes/etc.).

Lord Sojar · Nov 02, 2007, 03:01 AM // 03:01

Why can't we leave TexMod alone? God.... poor TexMod... poor modding community.

You can't see me · Nov 02, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06

In any game, out of game mods, or new updates come to make an accomplishment easy to, well, accomplish.

This is nothing new in any MMO, or any computer game for that matter. The debate is endless on where it goes too far. Sadly, no one can really draw the line.

Person X gets a title when the game first comes out. Person Y gets the title when the game is two years old, and has many updates/mods to make it easier for them. Person X complains he had to do more work. Fact of the matter: Gradually, things become easier because people adapt. This happens in any game. You can label it anything you want. Sleezy, cheap, underhanded, but it doesn't matter.

Gripe at Guildwiki for posting guides on the same title. They all just make it easier.

Lady Lozza · Nov 02, 2007, 05:20 AM // 05:20

Fitz, the only thing I can suggest is that if the people here are still comparing maps put them up, if they aren't then put them on an image host, pm me the links and I'll take a look for you because you SHOULD have 100% by now.

jezz · Nov 02, 2007, 06:03 AM // 06:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

Been there done that, then did it again, and again. 0.3% is in the part of the Boardwalk they did not open during the Dragon Fest. I can see it.

try outside nahpui in wajjun bazaar, i found a bit there...may help

Gaile Gray · Nov 02, 2007, 06:29 AM // 06:29

I would suggest that you reread and understand something. There's very little position-taking in my comments. I have said that there is a question, from some, about this mod, and have expressed what those who question the use of the mod feel about the issue. This is a hot topic, for certain players, and I was specifically asked to address the matter. I provided a synopsis that a few forum members took as opinion. I forwarded a question to one of the co-founders out of respect for those who held positions on both sides of the question.

Undoubtedly my verbiage could have been clearer. Certainly I might better have chosen to be uninvolved in the thread (despite more than one request for me to post). But most definitely, readers should have been a little less hasty to make assumptions about what I was trying to convey.

As we have said before, the only judge of whether a mod is acceptable or unacceptable is ArenaNet. Mike has been out of town and has not had an opportunity to discuss this particular matter with me, but I would judge that the fact that he has not done so means that the mod is not considered to be harmful. I will let you know if there is more to say on the subject.